In the Name of Allah Most Merciful Most Beneficent
I have been given a Christian missionary Article titled: “Where does the Quran says that the Bible is Corrupted” published by Al Hayat Ministries addressed to www.waterlifeministries.com from a Evangelical outreach group in Luton, Bedfordshire
They Bring the Case in the Small Article in folded paper as described below:
Many Muslims , educated or illiterate , believe that Jews and Christians have corrupted their respective sacred books. The Torah and the Holy Bible.Muslims accept this perception without question. But is there any evidence for their claim?
Below is the Scanned Copies of their Article:
Since they have asked us Muslims a Question and evidence to establish Muslims claim that Bible is corrupted, we have a detailed answer below with justifiable evidences.
THE IRREFUTABLE ANSWER:
The Bible According to Evangelical Christianity:
2. The Bible as seen on: https://fiec.org.uk/about-us/beliefs
God has revealed himself in the Bible, which consists of the Old and New Testaments alone. Every word was inspired by God through human authors, so that the Bible as originally given is in its entirety the Word of God, without error and fully reliable in fact and doctrine. The Bible alone speaks with final authority and is always sufficient for all matters of belief and practice.
So let’s see if this doctrinal statement of Christianity is true or false!.
Is it necessary that Quran should say Torah and Bible is corrupted? We say no. Because Bible itself testifies against the claim that Bible is not corrupted!.
Secondly, there is no Bible mentioned in the Quran as legitimate Book. “Bible” is not mentioned in the Bible itself.
Thirdly, Quran speaks about the Books of Prophets namely as “Torah, Psalm, and Enjil (the Gospel).
Torah according to Moses (Peace be upon him), Enjil according to Christ (Peace be upon him). And today’s Torah and Gospel is not according to the Prophets name stated above.
Torah by definition means: “The Word of God Revealed to Moses” with laws and Commandments. (Peace be upon him)
Enjil (Gospel) means the Word of God revealed to Prophet Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) .
But the Jewish Torah is something that is written by priests centuries after Moses (Peace be upon him). It’s words and language shows a biographer /historian from the Jewish scholarship writing this book.
Deuteronomy 34:10 There has never been another prophet in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face. (NLT)
This verse/book could be written centuries after Prophet Moses (Peace be upon him), even generations after Joshua (Peace be upon him).
Deuteronomy 34:5 And Moses the servant of the LORD died there in Moab, as the LORD had said.
If Prophet Moses was to write the Book Deuteronomy, then it is impossible he is writing this words and the next words after his death!. This prove that Jewish Torah was written centuries after Prophet Moses (Peace be upon him) and Prophet Joshua (Peace be upon him).
Since, the author have not seen or heard from his elders there had come a Prophet like Moses after him!
The Evidence in Jeremiah:
Jeremiah 8:8 (NLT) “‘How can you say, “We are wise because we have the word of the LORD,” when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies?
WHAT JESUS CHRIST SPOKEN ABOUT THE BIBLE:
Matthew 15:9 Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.'” (NLT)
The verse states that the worship of Jews and Christians are in vain, because the way they worship is not as commanded by the Prophets in the Law!
Mark 7:7-9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!
Christians argue that this verse only speak about Jews, and it is speaking about other books like Talmud. But clearly we can see that Jeremiah 8:8 and Mark 7:7-9 speaks about entire Israel.
Also, this verses does not say the Jews invented New books, but they have distorted their main scriptures!. Anybody knows Talmud was written before Prophet Jeremiah (Peace be upon him)? . This verses do not speak about new books of priests but twisting by writing lies in the existing Books!.So clearly it says: the word of God (i.e Torah Psalm etc) are twisted by writing lies in it!
This is why Christ denies those who claim they follow him, when he returns!
See Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’
It is clear that this verse is speaking about Christians. It also prove that mere belief in certain church doctrines (Trinity Crucifixion etc) will not save a person, and Jesus have not paid it all for the sins or law-breaking of the people!
Quran 5:47 commands Christians to Judge by what Allah has revealed in the Gospel through Christ. Not something which is written by human authors centuries after Christ!. The Roman State Priests!
Moreover , Bible is not a Book written by one person at one time, as even Christians agree that it was written by many people for over 4000 years time.
The Prophets Books also reveal that Antichrist spirits will change the Laws and Time. See Daniel 7:25 and 9:27.
One of the Proof is that Bible being corrupted is that: “Jesus Christ does not speak about God as YAHWEH”.
In the Entire New Testament, Jesus (Peace be upon him) did not reveal God as “YHWH”. While other Jewish distorted books calls God as “YAHWEH” . Christians argue that Islam call God Allah, and there is no YAHWEH in Islam. So Islam is false religion, they say!. The Jewish version of Bible invent “YAHWEH”as deity , so Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) challenged Jews corruption in the Bible and reject to call God “YAHWEH”.
While according to old Testament Books, God is called Yahweh, so if, the YAHWEH was God and previous Books called God YAHWEH, was Christ not worthy to reveal the God, as Christians say he is the cornerstone and the Last ?
So we must wake and see the truth, and truth shall set you free!
ACTUAL DISTORTIONS AND CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE:
The Evangelical Church describe the Bible as : “the Bible as originally given is in its entirety the Word of God, without error and fully reliable in fact and doctrine.” https://fiec.org.uk/about-us/beliefs
Which one of this verses is the word of God?:
OLD TESTAMENT – Jewish Torah: Exodus 1:5 The descendants of Jacob numbered “seventy” in all; Joseph was already in Egypt.
Genesis 46:27 With the two sons who had been born to Joseph in Egypt, the members of Jacob’s family, which went to Egypt, were “”””seventy”“”in all.
Genesis 46:26 All the persons belonging to Jacob, who came to Egypt, his direct descendants, not including the wives of Jacob’s sons, were sixty-six persons in all,
Acts 7:14 After this, Joseph sent for his father Jacob and his whole family, ““”seventy-five”“” in all.
Our God is God of Abraham Ishmael Issac and Jacob peace be upon them, does not forget things or get confused over the time. So who is the God of Paul who is inspiring Paul?!
God is not a.God of confusion and disorder. (1 Corinthians 14:33).
So which Book is inspired word of God?
Acts or Genesis& Exodus?
The Pastor had to leave this discussion.
Another pastor send a Link: http://notjustanotherbook.com/jacobfamily.htm
Still, we can see that this article also admit Bible has “minor errors”, Minor according to whose standard?. What is the criteria here to say something is major or minor?.
When a subject of the kingdom make a comment on something, it can be very minor, but when a King make the same mistake, it will be considered as Major. So we are talking about the “Unchanging infallible words of God without errors. The author of the web blog consider this errors and printing and typing error!. Anyway everyone has to make excuse to hold on to what they want to believe!.
Quran 4:82 Do they not then consider the Qur’an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradictions.
Quran 1:6-7 Guide us to the straight path -The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.
WHICH VERSE IS TRUE AND WHICH IS FALSE:
Head Covering: NEW TESTAMENT (FALSE COMMANDMENT)
1 Corinthians 11:4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. (NIV)
1 Corinthians 11:7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. (NIV)
TRUE COMMANDMENT OF OLD TESTAMENT:
Exodus 29:6 Put the turban on his head and attach the sacred emblem to the turban.
Leviticus 8:9 Then he placed the turban on Aaron’s head and set the gold plate, the sacred emblem, on the front of it, as the LORD commanded Moses.
Ezekiel 24:17 Groan quietly; do not mourn for the dead. Keep your turban fastened and your sandals on your feet; do not cover your mustache and beard or eat the customary food of mourners.”
Zechariah 3:5 Then I said, “Put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him, while the angel of the LORD stood by.
So who is changing the everlasting covenant laws of the God Of Israel?
Did Christ say that he abolished this laws?
Matthew 5:18-19 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
According to the Bible the Spirit of Antichrist Change the Laws:
Daniel 7:25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.
2 Thessalonians 2:9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie,
2 Corinthians 12:7 I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me.
1 Corinthians 9:20 When I was with the Jews, I lived like a Jew to bring the Jews to Christ. When I was with those who follow the Jewish law, I too lived under that law. Even though I am not subject to the law, I did this so I could bring to Christ those who are under the law.
Matthew 13:41 “The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
The Spirit of Antichrist will Make Covenant with Many through the Doctrines of Lawlessness:
Daniel 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”
THE LAW AND LAWLESSNESS:
Christians say the Law means, the Law of Love. But is it only the Law of Love?. No, the scriptures says the Laws of the Prophets!
See Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
So which one is reliable, the Laws of God given to the Prophets as an everlasting commandment to cover the head while ministering or the Lawlessness which command not to cover head?
Some Christian apologetics argued with us in social media, when we asked this two Questions (70 members in the House of Jacob issue and Head covering Issue) instead of addressing to this questions, they started attacking Quran!. Typical foolish tactics of apologetics:
This is the Answer an American pastor brought up, (silly)!
How many muslim here knows about Abrogation in Quran?? Surah 18:27 directly contradicts Surah 16:101 (Pastor said)
Typical hate speech when losing arguments and sound knowledge! we said to him
Our Comment: Anyway thank you for the link, you did not understand what it means. You don’t eve understand your own Bible. That’s why you mistakenly took pagan cross as The cross of Christ. When Christ was only comparing his Gospel to the cross of his time. And took fake up the cross daily and follow him.do you think that Jesus order to his followers to take up a pagan cross daily?
What’s the difference between your way and Paganism then? The verses about abrogation or change in The Quran only means: bringing a new Covenant or commandment. Nothing to do with things as you claim. Read your english Bible first and see the bringing of new covenants and commandments, replacement with some old laws and commandments. Or adding more commands into the covenants.
Anyway, those who live in lying and deceiving not going to accept the truth.
Contradiction in the Book Galatians:
Galatians 4:29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now.
Galatians 4:23 His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born because of the promise.
But in the whole story of Genesis, Hagar and Ishmael (Peace be upon them) were persecuted.
Genesis: 16:3 So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.
The family disputes and jealousy between co-wives has nothing to do with covenants.Moreover Hagar was free after Marriage to Abraham (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)!
ISHMAEL IS THE BLESSED SON AND HEIR:
All blessed sons and heirs to the prophet-hood of the descendants of Abraham (Peace be upon him) had to live away from the family.
Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said to God, “If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!”
Genesis 17:19 Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him.
The covenant of Isaac (Peace be upon him) was only for his descendants after him, not for whole nations on the earth! And it ends with Christ
See Matthew 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
But covenants that is coming through the Ishmaelite Prophets, even Israelites were bound to obey those commandments from Ishmaelite Prophets. See the Story of Prophet Moses with Prophet Jethro (Peace be upon them).
So we see that Hagar is mentioned as a holy lady blessed by God,despite the distortion in some parts of Genesis!
While God is asking Abraham (Peace be upon him) why Sarah is laughing while Angel of God visit Abraham!
See Hagar’s superiority: Genesis 16:13 She gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen the One who sees me.”
Ishmael’s (Peace be upon him) superiority as Heir of God’s Promise:
Genesis 21:20 God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer.
Lying pastors went on to say: Ishmael was illegitimate child, may God forbid such saying! How can someone be illegitimate when the Genesis says: Abraham (Peace be upon him) took hagar as his wife? See Genesis 16:3.
What is your evidence from the Torah against Ishmael?
You consider saying Bible is corrupted as a serious charge!. What about this false claims you making about Abraham’s family?
Are you not fearing what God said: Genesis 12:3 And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” ???
1 Chronicles 1:28 The sons of Abraham: Isaac and Ishmael.
The Chronicle itself is a distortion of Chronology! as Ishmael was the first son, but the so called author of Chronicles takes extra mile to change the chronology (see Changing time, Daniel 7:25)
See the Double Standard of the author of Chronicle:
1 Chronicle 1:34 Abraham was the father of Isaac. The sons of Isaac: Esau and Israel.
Here in 1 chronicle 1:34 the author of this book kept the chronology correct , as mentioning Esau first then Israel (Jacob alaihissalam). Because this does not invalidate serving the lie that has to establish the future lies!
THE SON OF SACRIFICE IS FIRST BORN-ISHMAEL (PEACE BE UPON HIM)
Genesis 22:2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love-–Isaac–and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”
Isaac cannot be the only son, Ishmael is present (Peace be upon them) this is another corruption in the Genesis, just shows how the priests and scribes changed the story! Some Christians say, Abraham (peace be upon him) did not love Ishmael. But the Bible refute this claim!
Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said to God, “If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!
Genesis 17:18 refute the claim that Isaac was only loved by Abraham (peace be upon him) rather the verse shows clearly that Abraham (Peace be upon him) and God Loved (See genesis 17:19) Ishmael and the New Born (Isaac) was blessed to have a covenant only for his descendants.
So we see that the Lord’s spirit manifest through the House of Ishmael (Kedar) and Deliver the world from idolatry and disbelief. (See Isaiah 42:11-17)
I am sure you know the curse of God that has befallen on Christians and Jews when you cursed and abused the family of Abraham and when they cursed Prophet Moses (peace be upon them)!
There are many other errors in the Bible which contradict the facts it is speaking about in different books!.
I am done with what is solely inspired to me regarding your questions. Not interested in copy pasting others work. So the links are given above!
I hope this is sufficient answers for the question: “Is the Bible corrupted” and to those who ask evidence from the Muslims for their claim that Bible is corrupted!
THE END OF DISCUSSION WITH PASTOR:
Now at least answer how did God of Paul forgotten (if that is true God) the family members of Jacob’s. After 3000 years? A God without eternal knowledge is false God and false Spirits .
When you talk about scriptures attributed to GOD, you need the high level holy standard of unchanging word of God To Test whether it is from God or from false Spirits .Deuteronomy 18:15-20 explains the works of true Prophet and false prophets. I hope you will show justice to your soul. There is no other arguments I am interested in, without a decent going on what is already discussed.We are seeking truth not having a street gang war of words .Or silly childish arguments. But we are having a. Mutual discussion that is most important to our souls and hereafter life
The choice of truth and falsehood. Right and wrong. Straight and crooked.
Once the Spirit leave our body, the opportunity is closed. That’s all. Ones we die the realities opening into our spirit. Whether we win or not. 75 is not just a number. But it indicates the members of Jacob’s family.
Not a roulette number to be changed Or ignored Yes anybody can justify anything by writing opinions
If they agree Paul erred, then the concept of Bible being God’s words in vain.So people have to continue lie to keep one lie upright
Head covering shameful according to Paul,Head covering holy according to God
See Torah and Psalm,Zechariah and Isaiah There was massive Antichrist propaganda going among Jews and Romans to mislead the nations That’s why you see how the life of Christ was dragged into the establishment of the idea to say Jesus paid it all and he abolished the laws on the devil worshipers cross
This is. A huge topic.Need much patience discipline and enthusiasms to hear it and understand Cannot just give through WhatsApp It’s ok bye now. O wish you all the best.
So accept from the Bible that which is in agreement with the Laws of the Prophets as defined by the Holy Quran, with the context of entirety and sound teachings of christ and of the Prophets. We have a criteria and methodology. Our criteria is truth and our methodology is to verify any doctrines or verses and see if it goes against the major commandments in the whole Books!
Peace be upon the Prophets of Allah
Praise be to Allah Lord of the Worlds